2012 Season Tickets
(Written by kencraw)
This meant to go up Wednesday, but the website wasn’t up in the morning and once it was up, there was a lot to go through to get all the data I wanted. Let’s get straight into it.
We now have just about all the information that we’ve been wondering about for Memorial Stadium in 2012. The key piece of data is out there at the new site, the seating chart:
(you can click on the picture for a larger version)
There are a number of notable things right off the bat:
- FINALLY we know which sections will have seats, which will have bench-backs (benches with backs like a seat) and which will have benches. Only the ESP section will have stadium chairs and the old donor sections on the west side will have benchbacks. Everyone else keeps their benches.
- While it’s not in the picture, we also know that all the sections from EE to I will have more space between the rows (more legroom) from the text on the website.
- Sections EE and I are shown as “double wide” sections kinda like the old G and GG sections.
- The Blue Zone on the south side of the stadium is gone.
- The Gold Zone on the north side of the stadium is much larger than in the past.
There are others but those are the big changes.
Of the above items, the one that has me scratching my head is the changed width of sections EE and I. Are those sections REALLY as big as they show? Hard to tell just from the above picture, but the Ticket Office tipped their hand on a different page…
If one goes to the ESP section, you can already pick individual seats right now. They’re a fortune, but they’re there. And when you look there, you get a good finished graphic of the west side:
Based on this (I put in the section letters, so it’s possible I’ve misjudged this but I doubt it), it’s pretty obvious that FF and H are VERY narrow sections, barely a half section, that F/HH is the original section it used to be and EE/I is both the old EE/I, plus half of the old E/II. So really that wide section is only a section and a half and the new E/II is a pretty narrow section.
The next big question is pricing:
FF/H: $1500
F/HH: $700
EE/I: $500
TT/T: $400
E/II/U: $350
Std Price: $300
Gold Zone: $225 ($100 discount for kids)
Another way to look at it is this: If you want added legroom and a bench-back, it’s going to cost you $200 over the standard reserved price. For those who want better seats than that, you can pay another $200 and if you want to be right next to the ESP, it’s another $800
If you don’t care about the bench-back, and you don’t mind staring into the sun, an extra $100 will get you seats on the East side equivalent to the bench-back seats. Or for an extra $50 over the standard price will get you as good seats as you can on the West side, sans the backed seats as well as some East side options.
All of that frankly seems fair to me except for the FF/H bump of EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS!?! That’s a HUMUNGOUS bump to get an extra 5 yards closer to the 50. My feeling is that’s going to be the most empty section. Now, it’s a pretty small section, so maybe there will be just enough suckers who have money to burn but aren’t quite willing to buy into ESP. I see this being people who also haven’t been long time season ticket holders or donors to Cal athletics. Why? Because the plus side is that with the lack of demand I anticipate, you’ll be able to pick your seat (isle, center, high, low, what have you) in that section. Since new-timers won’t get to pick until all the good seats are gone, they’ll get a choice to get some choice seats if they’re willing to pony up.
At least that’s the way I see it going.
The rest of it feels about right. An extra $200 to get the bench-back and the legroom seems fair to me. I might even do it myself (and those who have been around long enough know I’m a perpetual cheap-skate who’s never before paid to upgrade my seats). I think that says something about the demand that will exist for those seats. I know it’ll be a lot easier to talk my wife into that $200 than it was to talk her into $150 or even $50 before (not that I ever tried).
I guess what I’m trying to say is it’s not all that much more than those seats were before the stadium upgrade when everyone was on benches and the only benefit of paying was getting a bit closer to the middle. It doesn’t seem like they’re asking too much for the privilege of additional comfort.
This is of course with the glaring exception of FF/H.
Finally, the selection process is going to be similar to the process at AT&T with one new HUGE wrinkle. They’re splitting the overall set into 3 groups. The first group is 2011 season ticket holders or donors over $1200 (before 12/31/2011… hint, hint). The second group is 2010 season ticket holders or donors over $100. Finally, the third group is people who put down season ticket deposits for 2012.
This is great news for those of us who bought season tickets at AT&T as even us relative new timers (and I learned being a 12 year season ticket holder with one missing year in 2003 makes me a “new timer”) will get to pick before just about everyone who didn’t. They’re rewarding our loyalty: YAH!
Within each group, it’ll go back to the whole points system where those who have donated lots of money over the years get more points than the rest of us. One has to go all the way to the FAQs to find this out, but they’re using the exact same point system as last year, so my decision to donate $100 last year got me 5 extra points. YAH!
All of this is a long way of saying I’m happy with the consistency of the Athletic Department. They said they were going to reward those who bought tickets in 2011 and they are, in a big way. They made clear what their point system was going to be last year (something I wish I had known years earlier as I would have donated $100 a year if I knew it was worth 5x what my buying season tickets was), and they’ve stuck to that system. And of course, if you’re willing to pony up big money for the program today, no matter what your history is, you’re going to be rewarded.
Plus, while there are a few quirks in the seating map, it’s a fairly level-headed and evolutionary set of changes, many of which were hinted at during the project.
All in all, I’d say the Athletic Department got this one right.
December 17th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
One thing you didnt mention is if you didn’t purchase season tickets in 2011 or 2010, but you donate $100 on or before 12/31. that would bump you from group 3 to group 2, jumping all the other group 3 ticket buyers. Plus you will more than likely keep the ticket location for quite a while. That would be another $100 well spent.
December 17th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Yeah, that was an odd part. I ended up leaving it out because I felt I was already getting too long-winded on the subject.
But for non-season ticket holders (or I guess those who haven’t bought since at least 2009) you’ve got to put down a $100 deposit PER SEAT to get into group 3. However, if you donate $100 TOTAL to the bear backers you get all the way into group 2, for however many seats you’re interested in AND that $100 is applicable to any per-seat donations you might decide to make to get into better parts of the stadium when one actually goes to buy the tickets in the spring.
I guess for the true penny-pincher who’s not planing on getting donor level tickets, it’s “money down the drain” since it can’t be applied to $300 ticket price like the deposit would be, but it seems like a no-brainer to me to pay $100 one-time to get better seating priority for seats you’ll be able to keep for a long time.
December 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
maybe because i skimmed this article (you are long winded), but what the heck are the red sections in the second picture?
December 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
I didn’t cover that… those are sold out sections inside the ESP section.
My post was long enough without covering topics not relevant to us mere mortals who can’t afford the ESP section.
December 19th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Ken,
Do you have any insights to the priority points? While I know what my points are, I have no idea its relation to others. Are my points low, how high does it go, etc?
December 19th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Amy, I’ll do a post on this in the next few days. I know a few places to go get info from and I’m curious myself.